An Anita Blake #1 counterfeit has been added to the main page of the thread today. Thanks to Sirs for bringing it to our attention.

This thread actually has grown some legs since it's inception and I've even seen it referenced at other sites. I've even received a few emails regarding it from people outside of CCL (It's even how I was able to get my copy of V:LP #1 Black Cover!). Thanks again to everyone, and keep on the lookout.

In regards to the Anita Blake #1, the comic itself is a legitimate copy, it is the gold foil that was added after market that makes it a counterfeit or as marvel and dabel bro. both said an "after market" book and for everyone to be able to distinguish it, if it is gold foil it is not legitimate period. As much as it pains me to say that. :(

Same as with the WWH, Thor and Incredible Hulk "Gold Foil Variants". The book are manipulated after the fact, but still not approved by marvel.

I agree with comicastle...the comic exists and should be listed even if counterfeit, as long as they are noted. Isn't there another company that commisions their own covers and has the author sign them??? sealed with a certificate with serial number??? Can't think of the name??

Damn I thought comics were safe from counterfeits. Guess I was wrong.

I agree with a earlier post that you need to be careful buying on ebay. Some sellers sell reprints and maybe even counterfeits as a original first print. As always buyer beware. Do investigate on items you bid on. Look at their ebay feedback. Look at the scanned pic. Look at everything to see what you are really getting.

These aftermarket "foil" Thor and Hulk comics reminded me of something.

Check THESE out:

http://www.ndcomics.com/miracleman.html

Aftermarket foil comics...but in this case they were authorized by the original publisher!

A strange, manufactured variant...using existing inventory.

Odd.

Best,

Brett

I know I'm very late to the discussion, but i would think they should be included too, at least in some instances. It depends on the nature of the counterfeit.

Photocopied books probably shouldn't be included. They weren't actually printed by the original publisher in any way.

However, on the foil "counterfeits", the books was likely printed by Marvel. Then someone created the logos in gold leaf and applied them to the comics. The 1:1000 may even be true. Say Marvel did a print run of 75,000 and the guy applied gold leaf to 75, then they are 1:1000. It's a real Marvel printing, with gold leaf applied. I don't see that as much different than an autograph being applied later. The autograph adds value to some, just as the gold logo adds value to some. I would include these in the database.

Or think of it in terms of cars. If someone copies a Mustang and builds it in Mexico in a non-Ford factory, then it is a counterfeit. However, if someone buys one from a Ford dealer and then chromes it out, it's called a Saleen and they double the price. It isn't a counterfeit by any measure. Just pimped out by a 3rd party.

I'd love to see this.

Are you talking about #492 or #497? No one has disputed that there is a #492 Platinum. The part of the OP you quoted was for a #497 Platinum.

My bad. I've never even heard of a counterfeit 497 before now, and assumed you all meant the 492 Platinum and were using the wrong number.

Thanks for the clarification.

Back in the day, before eclipse had their flood (literally) the hardcover versions of Miracleman were just the trades, cut and glued to clothbound hardboards. Nutty, and odd. I'm not sure the ND comics are even legit, since I'm sure I could make them as well as you.

I'm sure Cat or Dean could verify, but ND are asking a lot for items that really are not variants, as much as aftermarket remanufactured editions, like X-Force #1.

Thx, mate!

-Justin Blake

Hey, all!

The main list on the first page had been updated with a new entry and more images added to help with detections! Keep an eye out for more!

I bought a Incredible Hulk (1968)#443 marked Z-IVALID off one of the sellers on the site, is this a counterfeit ? I seen the Thor Gold variant on the database and it is clearly marked as a counterfeit. What does the Z-IVALID mean?

That notation is simply CCL's method of noting that the issue is already in the database. It's a duplicate marked for deletion.

Some stores don't bother to move their inventory from the ones marked Z-INVALID to the correct listing. It doesn't mean the book is counterfeit - just that it's (often) a duplicate listing.

In this instance, the Z-Invalid issue was a newsstand edition of the "A" listing. CCL doesn't distinguish between newsstand and direct unless there are some significant differences such as price or cover layout.

No one is going to bother to counterfeit a $1.00 comic. The counterfeits come into play with big dollar items like the ones mentioned in this thread.

While I understand your paranoia around counterfeit comics, it's mostly unwarranted.

I'm actually looking for a TMNT #1 counterfeit comic.Anybody have one,send me a message.

Why would you want a counterfeit TMNT #1? It has the value of $0. I think for the most part people with a counterfeit would probably try to pass it off as the real thing and demand top dollar for it.

It's just part of comics history,and would love to own one along side my original copy.

LOL I had no idea when it comes to buying online I am a newbie and after collecting for 20 years I have never heard of counterfiet comics. Then again it is first for me be on a forum thanks for the info.