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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:33:19 PM
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Mick77
Friday, May 29, 2009 3:14:46 PM
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:22:45 AM
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Hi
For what it is worth, I bought 2 golden age books from metropolis, sent them both in to be graded, each came back 1/2 grade lower than what the grade i bought them at.
Most dealers will not guarentee their grade against CGC and 1/2 grade is within reason,though it can be disappointing to have an 8.0 come back 7.5.
In my experience I am more gun shy about online sellers claiming NM/MT or MT and ending up with VF+ or NM- that are not worth the price of shipping back. Always checking feedback is an important skill to learn.
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:52:54 PM
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Nothing like those lovable guys who make you feel all warm inside. I really miss him. No, really, I do. I like to hear how CGC is the absolute authority on comic books and how their grading system is the only standard. I like how they charge you based on the book value and grade you give the book before they grade it and only charge you more if they happen to grade it higher. By the way, if you pay them and it grades lower than you suspected they don't give you any money back. I am speaking from personal experience. I wonder if everyone has missed that part about how CGC does not guarantee grades or values of books or sales prices of books either. The system is flawed because CGC has an incentive to grade books higher to make more money. A truely unbiased system would charge flat rates for grading and that would be it.
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I've bought from Metropolis on a few occasions. Overall, I don't really like how they conduct their business, so I don't frequent them often. My main problems have been attitudes given to me by sales staff, and their whole "Make An Offer" option, which they might as well not have. One time I was shopping a $200 book and made an offer of $185. They countered with an offer of $199.50. I mean, why bother? I was just insulted by that for some reason, like it was a slap in the face. Then to add insult to injury, the book was on sale for 5% off two weeks later.
But on the times I have done business with them, I feel the books were accurately graded within reason. Delivery was a little slow, but well packaged.
As for comparing to CGC, I don't think you can say any dealer's grade will compare to CGC's grade on any single issue. Not that you can bank on with certainty. I've submitted many Silver and Bronze age books to CGC and there is always a grade that seems to make no sense with each submission. I've sent books that I thought were a slam-dunk 8.5 or 9.0, and get a 7.5 back because of some defect you can only see if you hold it at a certain angle, under certain lighting, and look with a magnifying glass. Then I will get grader notes and find that one grader gave it a 6.0, and two gave it an 8.5, with all three only noting the same defect. So instead of dismissing the 6.0, it somehow gets a 7.5 (average I guess). Or sometimes I will submit a book that in no way would I ever sell as more than an 8.5 and it will come back with a 9.2 or 9.4. I'll post scans of it on the collector's society forums, and they will all agree that there is no way it is a 9.2 or 9.4 (a "gift" grade) because of an obvious defect that somehow all the graders missed (no mention of it in the notes).
I'm not convinced that CGC can even grade the same book twice better than +/- one grade range. They also admit that they grade on a curve for Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Modern. So you can have a 8.5 Gold that looks worse than an 8.5 Silver, which looks worse than an 8.5 Bronze, which looks worse than an 8.5 modern. And some books may actually be Silver, but because they are more abundant, the Bronze curve is applied. Or if they are very rare, the Gold curve may apply. Plus there are other "curves" used. It makes it impossible to determine how a dealer's grades will stack up against CGC.